Tourneyfag

• "A few items like motion-sensor bombs, super scopes, and bombs can dramatically unbalance gameplay."-Super Smash Bros. BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW tourneyfag, being a fucking crybaby.

• "You can't practice "luck". You can't choose to have "luck". it wouldn't be fair to the person who actually tries to win and puts his all into it to lose because a pill that JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE FUCKING EXPLOSIVE kills him, or that a bomb-omb that JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE NEXT TO HIM kills him, or that sort of ilk."

• "There fact that it is possible to turn off items presumably means that some matches were meant to be played with them off. No one likes them in tournies because it allows the weaker player to win if they get sufficiently lucky, and when there is a prize for the ultimate winner, that sucks balls."-Holy shit, what time in the morning did you get up to come up with this?

• "Are you talking about wavedashing? I don't consider it a glitch, but I digress. Wavedashing is a short burst of movement that only a handful of characters can take advantage of. Not exactly game breaking."-Wow, this is actually over my head. Get a life, tourneyfags.

• "If the choice is either full on tourneytard or ultra-casual not even caring who wins, I'll go tourney myself. The whole point of competition is to do your best to win. If you're not trying your hardest, go read a book, take a nap, anything else that doesn't have winners and losers."- Tourneyfag, on video games. Could video games be more competitive if there weren't just a bunch of racist 12 year-old kids and 30-something basement-dwelling fags occupying the online community?

• "If you want to hit four buttons over and over for your free kill, go eat a cake or do something else that's really easy and gives simple gratification."- If it's that easy to win, why do you even bother with these cocksucking rules in the first place?

• "lol @ casual "gamers" I love how people participate in a hobby the suck balls at and think they count. Casual "gamers" are no better than fanfiction writers or deviantfags who draw pictures of Spongebob fucking Haruhi."-People who take this shit seriously must feel pretty good about themselves after this shitty comeback.

• "Yea, but a random change in the stage, though you know its coming can turn a strategy over and everybody knows that if you're so into the game the fact you have to jump to a platform instead of hitting your enemy is going to piss you off, thats why all tourney fags use maps you can Waveshine on"-Why do I bother continuing? It's not like these guys will want to take this kind of abuse towards their life's accomplishments.

• "the point of a tournament is being able to fight each other without any sort of outside influence affecting the fight, to show who is more skilled than another. having an "off day" has nothing to do with being skilled or trying your hardest, and shouldn't have to affect a regular, balanced fight."-You missed the point of video games in general, faggort.

• "it removes the more random parts of it to try and make it into a more balanced fighter. it takes away what makes it a casual, jump-in sort of game, and molds it into the kind of game that can be practiced, the kind of game that actually is at least more equal. some people find a battle of equality, where no one can get an upper hand due to a retarded deus ex machina, and where the only thing that you can be graded on is how well you can execute your moves and keep focused. but of course, NOPE, IT HAS TO HAVE BOB-OMBS AND SUPER FLAT ZONE AND BE COMPLETELY RANDOM AND WACKY LOL TO BE FUN ^^ DESU-NE. die slowly in a fire."-Tourneyfag, on what tourneyfags must, but refuse, to do in order to save themselves from eternal damnation.

• "Tourneyfags are the shit killing ALL video games in general. They can't handle the heat of items so they turn it off. They can't handle the way a map works so they ban it. They can't handle the way a character outmatches Fox so they ban it. But they don't ban bugs and exploits....right and WE'RE the scrubs"-A casualfag on tourneyfags. Truth.

• "Fixing the game so the only stages or methods of gameplay you can use benefits a grand total of maybe five characters tops doesn't seem like "fair and even" to me. What about characters like Mewtwo, who benefit from items and are thus totally fucking shafted? or characters who would do well on moving stages who are once again fucked for Final Destination/Battlefield? Balancing the game in favor of certain characters doesn't seem like balancing it at all, it seems like fucking it up."-Well, do you think tourneyfags who only ever use those five characters care? You're dead to the fuckers.

• "SSB is the tourneytard game for faggots who suck at every other FIGHTAN GAEM in existence. Basically SSB tournaments are a desperate grasp for some kind of achievement in their pathetic lives."-Moar truth. These guys should get an award.

• "50 dollars for two characters and one stage. Sounds like a solid investment, eh what? :D"-EH WOT. Indeed.

• (On needing items to use Zero Suit Samus) "I'm boycotting this game guaranteed now. Wavedashing or not, that's just completely stupid. I in no way trust sakurai anymore and hope he dies." ~ To tourneyfags, forcing them to use items is like shoving a cake in an oven.

• "But I guess I'm not getting anywhere with proving the greatness of competitive Smash. So I'll propose a challenge to anyone on this thread who doesn't like competive smash.When Brawl comes out, I'll play anyone in a best out of 5, no items. If I lose, I'll never post on these boards again(I'm dead serious) but if I win, then the person(s) must admit that competive smash is awsome."-This tourneyfag is definately lying, if he lost he would (dead FUCKING seriously) come back with some shitty "U PRCK!!!!!!1111111111111i WHANT A rEmAtCh!!1

U RNT FARE n BAlANCED!!!!!

• "I especially love the "real men use items" Tag thing. Makes sense, I guess peace is a "Real Man" now, idiots. By this item logic "Real men" suck at the game too. Whoever Nate is, I'll trash him."-So tourneyfags aren't real men? Thanks for that one.

• Casualfag: "Yes, we're using items. We'll discuss this further in the faction forum but i'm making sure this clan stays as tourneyfag free as possible, and the only way to do that is to make all stages usuable and items mandatory."-Don't these fuckers have lives? No, they don't.

• Tourneyfag: "You future and downfall in Smash has been writtin in that [above] post. There's no better way in declaring that you suck other than of that statement you posted."-The person he's writing to probably has a life. Well, at least he has one!

• "cause ull lose? and who said i would lose with items? im a sniper with items id pwn ur ass all over the place. and what do u have against fox? afraid of getting shined off the stage? i can do that with items on and on any stage."-I still have no idea what the fuck "shined" means. It's like another language with tourneyfags.

• "If you're playing against a real pro, then whether you use items or not, you will lose to them. It's just that items get in the way of skill and technique."

• "all the casuals play gay"-That's why they're called tourneyFAGS.

• "You suck, idiot. I can chop the game disc in half, and that's all pros need."-The pros really should chop the disc in half and throw it away, then get a goddamn job.

• "None of the tourney players are complaining about this. None of us even fucking care. The fact that you "casualfags" (and effective opposite to your beloved tourneyfag), are saying this is broken just goes to show you can't even fucking figure out how to use mechanics that were intentionally programmed (like directional influence, or for gods sake, fucking teching) to get out of something this retarded just goes to show how inept 99% of you are. Go back to 4chan you fucking scrubs."

• "im happy when i hear players who i know are skilled arguing over the tiers....it just let's me know actually well balanced Melee is...and for those who say it isnt very well balanced, i say: Play another another fighting game and get to know those tiers and how separated they are"-Failing to realize that just about any other fighting game does a 100% better job at discerning skill from faggotry.

• "characters are better than others, but im assuming nintendo didnt care about balance in the first place"-They didn't, or else none of their characters (all of whom are gay, since sexual practice is taboo to even their most mature fans) would look like the target audience was a bunch of six year-olds off their meds. Seriously, Yoshi looks like something in Dragon Tales. And do I even need to mention furry's involvement?

• "Who cares what SAKURAI wants. It's me who is playing and it is me who wants to ENJOY playing it. His way, to me, is NOT the FUN way. Also why is it a big deal to you? Who is holding a gun to your head saying YOU PLAY LIKE THIS OR I SHOOT YOU? Nobody. You play your way(randomness) and I'll play mine(as skill oriented as can be)."-Your way (lulz), and my way (gay).

• "Not necessarily. Sakurai has definitely acknowledged the large tourney fanbase. Smashboards is hardly a good sample of decent tourney players."

• "Sakurai's just a scrub. Reading his thoughts on competitive gaming just makes me want brawl to be more competitive than ever."

• "Glitches," "Tricks," whatever you want to call them that made the game more than what it was. It helped turn it into a deep fighting game. Combos in street fighter were not intended either. Instead of pulling a Sakurai, however, they knew that they were on to something, and kept going with it. Sakurai had come across a great thing, and instead, dismisses it. It's a shame, really."

• "Sakurai can go to hell, he's deliberately ruining the metagame. Seriously, if your not good, just don't play with good players.-A particularly balsy statement from a tourneyfag. Without Skurai, you wouldn't even have a decent game to rape the shit out of for everyone else who actually wants to PLAY, not WORK.

• "PrakirJaq, you are correct, I believe the animation is called "landfall special." I made a huge post about the mechanics of wavedashing in another thread. It's not a glitch. Technically none of the exploits we frequently use are glitches, which is rare. But as Mookie said, glitch vs. exploit is just an argument in semantics. In Halo 2, the BXR was probably a glitch, the doubleshot was almost certainly a glitch, yet both widened the skillgap so people used them and didn't complain. Nintendo fans just tend to be scrubbier than other communities."

• "He's Nintendo's biggest selling point now-a-days and gets not Smash lov'n.

• "You do that. Note that the best Mewtwo in the world, Taj. Has never won a major tourney. And NO LOW TIER HAS EVER GOTTEN FIRST AT A MAJOR TOURNEY!

• " If you use a character who is weak against another character and lose, that's your fault. It is your choice who you use, so you shouldn't whine if you have a bad match-up.-Ironically, the tourneyfag in this quote was most likely the one bawwing about a bad match-up. Or not, considering that he probably won and spat in the face of the poor loser so he could use a line like this one.

• "Fun is subjective, understand that CPB&. Ebaums has fun posting porn all over the place for the "lulz", casuals have fun playing with items on wacky stages, and I have fun beating my opponent to a bloody pulp with no aid whatsoever on neutral stages. When I played with my 4 year old nephew, I tore him to shreds." ~ Superstar-What the fuck? Tourneyfags families aren't even safe. His nephew probably kicked his ass IRL and in the game.

• Casualfag troll girl:"To be honest, I think it's actually good Evo decided to put items and not ban certain stages. Why? Because it actually would make you work harder to "fight against luck". To me, that takes more skill than staying on the ruleset of "no items, these certain tiers only, final destination". 'Cuz if someone could also play skillfully with items and whacky stages, then that's some **** skill right there."-Moar truth, for teh winnzar.